Breaking The Pedophile Stereotype

“Hello, M’Little Lady.  Would you like some candy?”  >what people actually believe all pedos are somehow…

Pedophobes actually believe we are all these kind of individuals who would take advantages over the “naiveness” or should I say over the fact people deliberately keep ignorance in a child.  This is actually produced thanks to society not permitting them to approach life as for what it is instead but establishing a determined view of what a minor should approach, ignoring what would originally be their way of experimenting through life and acquire their own experiences.  Given the current legal approach, as well as the social particularity of child-adult relationships conception, there is incitement, rather than prevention of criminal behaviour.

These circumstances allows for the invention and successful implementation of a stereotype that has been made common across the years of what a “pedophile” apparently consists of.  From men in their 40’s, to creepy dudes with white vans painted over with “FREE CANDY” at the side in their vans, the one-sided approach to pedophilia has been rather completely funded on a mere impression of what’s not known to misinformed folks.  This is further fortified by said sources which makes them unaware of a complete interpretation of what MAPs are, which includes the media, politicians (given that in their position, they rather use pedophilia, along with terrorism to manipulate the uneducated masses), the legal implications surrounding this topic (introducing bias and limits to researches in particular) and the nonsensical censoring of those who had good experiences in a child-adult relationship.

Like all group of individuals, they often get classified as being a certain way in order to permit easier addressing and/or correlation.  There is perhaps similar traits that they might share among each other, but does not make it so for everyone that constitutes part of that group, or in various cases, it doesn’t even apply to the majority at all, maybe to the most vocal ones, if anything.  That is probably one of the biggest issues the MAP community is facing, the representation that is made of us to those who are less knowledgeable of pedophilia.

Currently, in order to actually understand pedophiles from a strictly informed point of view, it would be completely necessary for the curious individuals to make their own researches.  The reason for this would be given the lack of definition of what pedophilia is from other standpoints that isn’t mostly against it and unwilling to explore it keeping a more open-minded attitude handy.  Unlike other controversial topics, we do not have a sufficiently solidified movement that addresses our issues in all the possible points that this could be discussed in.  This means that there is a monopoly of information traffic coming from mostly mainstream media whom also receives their information from third parties in grand majority of the cases, rather than coming from themselves with direct interaction with MAPs and direct research.

In order to be able to address this issue we need to become more active, but also while promoting changes to issues that also prevents us from exercising our freedom of speech first (if we can even consider actually having that right).  Some of the barriers that are keeping us from getting into these topics are, for example, the sex offender registry, the severe punishments, along with the implication of horrible social conditions, for actions that aren’t necessarily harmful to anyone at all times, if not in the minimum of occasions.  Another example is that it is only thought that CP is to re-traumatize individuals for some reason, though that argument does not contain any actual base whatsoever, and can easily be brushed off by replacing arguments of such nature from CP with Gore or something else that is both legal and inherently violent nature (which is objectively worse than whatever people want to make out of the subject I am comparing them with) and then observe how the latter is not prosecuted despite that.

It is a hard battle against censorship we are up against, but does that mean that we should further limit our efforts or does it mean to find even more ways to promote transparency, as well as the variety of information available on MAPs in all perspectives?  The spreading of information and propaganda is perhaps one of the elements that mostly underestimated by individuals.  At the very least, if not agree with us, people will be conscious about us and will eventually start discussion and partake into more and more conversations…  Some will remain ignorant and not pursue further than what the eye meets, others will start to research more and, consequently, come into a more informed take on how to address to pedophilia better, which while it won’t guarantee that they will side with a specific stance on contact, it will encourage more intellectual discussion and curiosity of the people, and the chances of folks knowing that MAPs are not evil beings.

What are your preferred methods of activism?  I have recently been fond, thanks to discussion about it around other places, of using art as another method to convey our message.  This both addresses the issues with pedophilia being dehumanized and the lack of our messages going through individuals and/or their lack of reach because in art you romanticize and also are able to abstractly represent the community.  Now the only thing I would like to able to is to know how to draw, but at least I can well manage to use image editors to do much of what I would generally wish to do.

 

 

 

 

 

31 Replies to “Breaking The Pedophile Stereotype”

  1. “What are your preferred methods of activism?”

    At a personal level: In the face of lies and deceit, relentlessly spell out the truth. Communicating the truth requires knowledge and the ability to articulate; keeping oneself informed makes this easier.

    “In order to be able to address this issue we need to become more active …”

    A nice concept, but once you quantify the term ‘we’, given the apathetic age we currently live in, any notion of paedophile activism becomes laughable. The Men’s Right Movement, for example, has achieved negligible progress against bewildering numbers of new feminist-inspired sex laws.

    1. Spelling the truth is always a hard feat, one which is the hardest to receptor to process than for anyone else implicated… As time passes, many of our instances become with just having the listener rejecting our message and entering a state of denial. This is further demonstrated when citizens themselves try to push agencies into even censoring us more than we are, just for speaking.

      “A nice concept, but once you quantify the term ‘we’, given the apathetic age we currently live in, any notion of paedophile activism becomes laughable.”

      I completely agree. We are nearly not as organized as we need to be, given that we keep disagreeing with those who have other stances in contact, rather than trying to get along with them in order to achieve those of the goals we all agree on. However, despite of that, it does not mean that we should halt the attempts of structuring ourselves somehow, if not to convince the public, then for convincing ourselves into what to do better, as pedophiles, not as pro-contacts, nor anti-contacts, etc…

      I know that is wishful thinking for now, because most stances of contacts hates between one another and in my opinion that internal hate only causes further division among ourselves.

      1. “Every man who says frankly and fully what he thinks, is doing a public service. We should be grateful to him for attacking most unsparingly our most cherished opinions.” John Stuart Mill.

          1. I made an account in the social site they have there, and I have seen the dude who runs it around on Twitter (he also engaged in conversation with Ender before, which got him banned and Ender also made crops of the convo, but it’s probably censored). Anyways, in my personal opinion, The Sexual Reform, further supported by the site itself (https://sexualreform.com/ossn/home) gives me the vibe of Heart Progress, so it might as well just be another troll group (and in that social network they have, they are rather going edgy on it too, so I’m not sure what is really up in there, apart from my suspicions).

  2. You know, I have never gotten close with a child because I gave or offered them material objects or money. It has only ever been because I treated them with respect and took them seriously. I will give gifts, but it is only after a strong bond has formed and there is a lot of love shared between us.

    As for activism, I just debate online on popular websites and that’s about it. Probably the weakest form of activism. I am starting a blog however, which is a little better I guess, but still not much.

    1. Same here. All strong bonds are bound by more than just exchanges of gifts. In my case, I just like to hang with them a lot and unironically play hide and seek and stuff like, because I do like it and it’s refreshing to see little girls and little boys trying to catch you, as well as viceversa and I also deeply enjoy whenever I get to talk to them about serious issues. Their replies alone goes against a lot of what the masses think about children.

      Oh, and if you start the blog, I’ll be sure to follow it as well. c:

      1. I have it made but I am having issues confirming it with mail2tor. The link they supposedly supply in the confirmation email just isn’t there. I can log in and follow blogs (though oddly not yours… I am using wordpress) but I can’t post yet.

        1. Perhaps try using a different email then. And well, in my case, it might just be the domain, but you can subscribe to my blog, I think it should let you do it.

      2. Oh and I absolutely agree. I enjoy spending time with little girls, enjoy hearing their opinions and just enjoy…. them. I could listen to a cutely talk nearly endlessly and converse with her about anything with genuine interest. I can too with boys, but there is no attraction, I think it is just a rub off from my ability to do so with little girls.

        1. I love talking with both, and for boys, well, I can indeed be attracted to them too, but it’s rare. I like hanging out with both of them, to the point where they are the ones constantly looking for me, lol. Like, before I had a little girl who would call home every day she could just to say she’s there and that I have to come over. I also had a crush on her, to be honest, well, still do.

    1. Yes, I already follow that blog. Unfortunately, the owner have no plans on further updates to it, according to what he told me on Discord that last time I spoke to him.

  3. What are your preferred methods of activism?

    You think this is activism? Hiding behind a computer screen and posting on a blog? Nope.

    Real activism involves risking one’s life and going out in public preaching your message.

    You all claim to care about children more than non-pedophiles but if that were true then why are you not risking your life to change laws and fight for a children’s rights? Why are you not adopting and fostering children? Because unlike those who actually care about children you would not ever sacrifice a thing to help children. Fighting for children’s rights is not hiding being a computer and staying anonymous.

    1. >You think this is activism? Hiding behind a computer screen and posting on a blog? Nope.

      To be fair, that is your own personal opinion, and you are also implying that I do not talk about this topic in real life with those I have the chance to introduce these stuff to, which I certainly do when I do have the opportunity.

      >Real activism involves risking one’s life and going out in public preaching your message.

      This is also another statement of your own opinion, but it is true that it is one form activism can take.

      >You all claim to care about children more than non-pedophiles but if that were true then why are you not risking your life to change laws and fight for a children’s rights?

      I will need a source for where it says “that all pedophiles claim to care more about children than non-pedophiles”. Also, you are aware that going out there in reality, which a few pedophiles have already done, is currently ineffective, as in coming out as a pedophile in public… So, following that, how are you certain that there are not pedophiles out there, in their respective professions, pushing for children to have more freedom in other areas of their life, but still choosing to keep themselves in the “toybox” in order to be able to do these?

      > Why are you not adopting and fostering children?

      Um, as far as I know, there are pedophiles that do adopt children, however, don’t expect to see a list saying “this pedophile” adopted “X” child, because I’m pretty sure you know that the current stigma does not allow for that, so what say you that there are not people interested in children’s rights resorting to adoption?

      Also, I am personally planning to adopt in the near future as well, but as it is now, I am rather too young for that yet (I am on my 20’s) and yes, I have been seriously considering adoption when the time permits me to do so.

      >Because unlike those who actually care about children you would not ever sacrifice a thing to help children. Fighting for children’s rights is not hiding being a computer and staying anonymous.

      You are making a lot of assumptions over my activities being limited to interacting behind a screen, but let me assure you that such is not the case with me. Whether you want to believe that or not, it will, of course, depend on you, but since you asked, then I let you know that this is only but one form I use as a medium of communication. I understand your concern over many people resorting to only online interaction and then doing nothing in real life, but again, I do both what I can, in my current position, in here and in real life.

    2. According to Paedophilia: The Radical Case, chapter 13, the climate of ease in Holland towards pedophilia, back in the eighties, was largely because of education. That form of activism that you speak about is possible, but it would bring no results. Stigma must be reduced first and education is needed to do that. In Paedophilia, the author speaks about how the climate of tolerance to pedophilia became possible in Holland thanks to around twenty years of pedophiles informing the population, even opening their own publishing house. Currently, the cheapest and quickest way to mimic a publishing house is by opening a weblog. Plus, activism doesn’t need to be done in an unsafe manner. But even online activism implies risk: we are exposing ourselves to be hacked, not to mention the online hatred that can cripple weaker minds. I’m not the kind of person who gets offended by words on the screen, but the younger minor-attracted people, specially pedophiles, need time to develop what it takes to desensitize to it.

      1. Yes, plus there is also personal activism that can aid in this pursuing towards bringing people to address pedophilia and child-adult relationships in a more rational manner. It could be with friends you trust and it does not necessarily have to straight out come out as “I am a pedophile.” It can less abrupt and by introducing other issues that also involved children how the laws continuously fail to achieve their original intention, while greatly contributing for the original issue to become twice the problem. Heck, I would say it could be possible without outing yourself, as long as you manage to make the person see how protection laws for children are useless and continue to prove their failure by increasing cases of child abuse and the continuing war of taking down criminals but never looking like it will stop.

      1. your ‘aoc’ as you call it is very strange, it is assumed that human beings are children until they are 18, should not you like them until they are 17?

        1. It’s AoA (which is short for age of attraction). Anyways, no. It is not strange since who we are attracted does not only varies to the age of 17. Some will like younger, like pedophiles, and others, like hebephiles, will like pre-teens. Even then, there are those of us who are “non-exclusive”, which means that they can also be attracted to adults, which is my case as well, sometimes.

          However, I replied that in my case it varies, mostly, from children aged from 2-12, but I can go lower of higher. Also, I’m just mentioning for the sake of it, but age of consent also varies between different countries, so you might want to check out on that and how MAPs are not exactly are attracted to the same age groups, just like everyone else are not all attracted to blonde women, or older women in a particular age, though some are.

          1. I’m sorry, I did not know anything about it, I just know what people around me have told me, I’m still young, I’m sorry if I do not know about these things, I just want to learn. So Have you ever met a MAP who likes teen-agers but not pre pubescent children like you? What did they tell you about it? have you met them personally?

          2. No, it is fine. If anything, I apologize if I came a bit intimidating or anything. I truly appreciate that you are reaching out to me and your willingness to learn about MAPs.

            Yes, I have met MAPs who like teenagers. In what context do you mean of what they have told me about it? I have met from those who hate their attraction to those who are ok with their feelings towards teenagers.

            I have met some MAPs in reality, yes, but really those I have met from the Internet, yet.

            And again, it’s fine to ask, for I do not mind it. If anything, I welcome you, thanks for coming here and talking to me.

        2. Hello Emy, I am a MAP that is attracted to girls of the ages of about three to the early twenties. So I am attracted to teenagers too, just as much as prepubescent girls. By the time a girl is in her 20s, I don’t have much attraction for her, though I can still be aroused. It also depends on the girl too, if I knew her as a little girl or teen then I do have more of an attraction to her as an adult, but to be fair I am in my late 20s myself so that has only happened a few times.

          It should be noted that society might consider teens children but that is far from reality. Mostly by the age of 14/15 humans are physiologically adults and their brain development is on par with “adults”. They are generally as capable as any other adult, we just live in a culture that purposely holds teens back and stunts the development of crucial skills and abilities and even parts of the brain. Society does this to “protect” youth but really I find it to be some psychosis our society suffers from.

          There is a lot of overlap but pedophilia is the attraction to prepubescent individuals and hebephilia the attraction to pubescent individuals. There is “ephebophilia” which is the attraction to teens around the ages of 15-19 essentially but I find that to be a nonsensical delineation as the attraction to teens is completely typical for human sexuality. It is based off adolescence which is essentially an invented stage of development that makes no sense cross-culturally.

          So that is why not all pedophiles like teens, mostly the pedophile finds them too old for their attraction.

          Again, I like preteens and teens. Sometimes young adults but not nearly as much as preteens and teens.

          It offers me a unique opportunity as a MAP to be able to have legal relations with girls as young as 16 (the legal limit in my location) and I regularly pursue such relationships even though they are socially unacceptable.

          I prefer the company of preteen and teen girls, I just enjoy being around them, engaging in conversation with them, how they look, what they are interested in, how they act etc. I often can’t stand females near my age or older. Though that might be something I developed because they attack me for my open interest in mid-late teens (I keep my pedophilia and hebephilia secret).

          If you are interested in reading more about me or how I feel about things, I just created a wordpress blog. I will be making my first post today at some point. It will just be essentially an introduction though.

  4. https://onthefenceadvocacy.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/20121217-202448.jpg

    Do you recognize the image, Donald? It is the one that you used for your blog. Above it is with the quote of John Holt attached.

    You do know Holt, for sure – he was probably the most ardent proponent of child liberation ever. He is still the source of inspiration for homeschoolers, unschoolers and alternative schoolers. It is funny, however, how these people tend to ignore his more radical stances – such as the one affirming and approving consensual child-adult sex.

    In fact, Holt is hardly the only prominent figure whose pro-intergenrational sexuality views are so conviniently forgotten. For example, Michel Foucault is one of the core authors for modern social scientists and humanitarian scholars, yet his supportive position on intergenrational sex is hardly ever mentioned.

    And this tendency goes beyond individuals to the whole movements – modern “respectable” LGBT activists tend to become very upset and angry if someone reminds them of their much more radical Gay Liberation past – which included friendly attitude to intimacy between adults and children.

    Yet this willful forgetfulness does not stop even here. Modern people tend to banish from their minds the the colossal loads of historical and cross-cultural evidence of positive intergenrational intimacy, presenting modern hysterical denial of child sexuality as some kind of timeless truth which was somehow just overlooked by all people before us and everyone not-yet-fully-Westernised today.

    This people’s power of shaping their own cosy reality by making oneself unable to notice any incovenient events has always made me wonder.

    1. Yes, I have heard of Holt and I remember reading that particular quote somewhere before, as well as I have read some of Foucault.

      Yet this willful forgetfulness does not stop even here. Modern people tend to banish from their minds the the colossal loads of historical and cross-cultural evidence of positive intergenrational intimacy, presenting modern hysterical denial of child sexuality as some kind of timeless truth which was somehow just overlooked by all people before us and everyone not-yet-fully-Westernised today.

      This people’s power of shaping their own cosy reality by making oneself unable to notice any incovenient events has always made me wonder.

      I have also noticed this attitude among individuals, but I also know that it is not entirely each individual’s fault that they are ignorant of these facts. From schooling systems, to even studies and researches, these elements are barely taught or sought, even when the information is available. Only those who venture to know more, without also limiting themselves in the also conveniently “forbidden knowledge” bias get to know of these things and then acknowledge them as they are.

      Yes, it is actually quite amusing that those who do know about this past choose to deliberately ignore what they see unfit, and it’s even more unfortunate when these same individuals are also teachers or persons of high influence or very vocal about their stances, all while also promoting censorship to those that opposes their mindset because, in our case, they say “we are violent and that we want to legalize rape”, which is a very typical misconception of what it means to be in favour of child-adult relationships.

    1. I did a quick search about this and there are no imminent results that this ad was actually referring to an existent website, according to the blogs and news websites that talks about it. The website appears to no longer be in operation, if it ever was.

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